
By Caijing Chief
Economist Shen Minggao
Eight economists were
invited by Premier Wen Jiabao and the State Council to a closed-door meeting
between July 8 and 11 on
Rising Unemployment
CJ: Please tell us what you
and the other economists said at the meeting.
Cai: The discussion focused
on current economic conditions. We talked about whether economic growth will
slow, how to contain inflation and stimulate growth, and whether
Economists are split on the
two major macro tasks: fighting inflation and stimulating growth. However, we
generally agreed that monetary policy should remain as it is. We should neither
loosen it nor tighten it further.
One thing that concerns
officials at the State Council is how much the slowdown of GDP growth will hurt
employment. Should we retain growth momentum to ensure high employment rates? I
mainly talked about this issue.
CJ: How do you evaluate
current employment conditions?
Cai: I’m quite worried
about the economic growth. Last year, GDP grew by 11.9 percent, and in the first
of half of 2008, it was 10.4 percent. Now the growth rate is flattening out,
while unemployment is climbing up.
The registered urban
unemployment rate in the first quarter of 2008 was 4 percent, while for the
first six months it was 4.05 percent. That means that in the second quarter, it
was somewhere around 4.1 percent. Clearly the unemployment rate is rising.
Before this year,
Some have questioned the
legitimacy of using the registered urban unemployment rate as a valid indicator
for the labor market. I think it works. The International Labor Organization has
established the survey unemployment rate as the major indicator instead of the
registered unemployment rate. The
A few years ago,
CJ: So you think slower
economic growth has affected the unemployment rate. But will high growth ensure
high employment rates?
Cai: Not necessarily.
People often apply Okun’s Law – an inverse relationship between economic growth
and unemployment – to the study of the labor market. But economic growth and
employment are not closely related in
One reason is that Chinese
policy favors large size companies. The preference is even more obvious when the
government adjusts its macro-economic policies recently. The selective policy
tends to support some companies while leave others on their own. Those receiving
support are usually enterprises with high profits, low emissions, low rates of
pollution and less reliance on resources. In reality, they are big companies,
especially state-controlled ones, equipped with better technologies, but usually
not the one that necessarily fit the above criteria.
We did a survey of 17
industries and found that capital-intensive companies, most of which are large
enterprises, contribute a lot to GDP growth but are not so impressive in terms
of creating new jobs.
A tight monetary policy was
put into effect last year. The control of credit was implemented in two ways:
quantity and quality. In terms of quality, better risk controls and higher
earnings were required for lending, and that situation diverted loans toward
larger companies and away from small ones – because lending to them became even
riskier.
Another reason is the
structure of
Cyclical unemployment is
caused by economic slowdowns. Policies to stimulate growth can only reduce
cyclical unemployment. So to reduce unemployment across
The government can make a
difference in natural unemployment. In the
CJ: When the economy slows,
where will we see the most serious impact on cyclical
employment?
Cai: Nobody wants to see a
steep downturn of the growth. It would be great if the yearly growth rate
reaches 10 percent in 2008. But if 1.9 percentage points of the growth rate from
last year are wiped out, labor-intensive industries are
hardest-hit.
Looking back, massive
layoffs from state-owned factories started in the 1990s. Small and medium-sized
enterprises (SMEs), private companies and even some informal employment
opportunities played an important role in absorbing labor. The current economic
slowdown, however, hit them hard. Actually, the registered unemployment rate
possibly underestimates real situation of unemployment, because statistics tend
to miss unemployment in these sectors. For instance, migrant workers won’t
register.
In terms of urban income,
part of that also falls out of our data. When the economy rises fast, the
undocumented income jumps fast. But it drops equally rapidly when the economy is
going downward. The result is, it looks like urban residents’ income hasn’t
changed much, but the unreported group can be much worse than that.
Caijing: You said most
economists agree on continuing tight monetary policies, but an economic slowdown
will definitely affect the situation of SMEs. How can macro-policy help
them?
Cai: Tight monetary policy
is not good news for SMEs. The influence is mostly indirect. Historically, it’s
hard for these companies to borrow from banks, and they turn to the market for
financing. Now that banks have window guidance from the central bank as a
measure to tight lending, it becomes even harder for SMEs to borrow from formal
channels. That leads to skyrocketing interest rates for private borrowers, which
is a heavy blow to smaller companies.
To help them, I think
reducing taxes is a good method. Tax revenues rose rapidly in the first half of
2008, and it’s widely agreed among scholars that we can cut tax rates a bit. But
there are needs for more government spending – natural disasters hit
The New Labor Law, Good or
Bad
CJ: Quite a few companies,
especially SMEs, complain that the new labor law increases costs. Employees
don’t seem to like the labor law very much either.
Why?
Cai: Debate over the new
labor law has never ceased, even after it became effective. Some think
the law is a burden to enterprises while not benefiting workers.
One problem is a flawed
social security net for migrant workers. There is no nationwide social security
system; some provinces even don’t have a province-wide social security net. That
leads to many migrant workers withdrawing from the social security system. Why?
For instance, in the pension system, workers pay 8 percent of their salary and
companies match it. In some seasonal, labor-intensive industries, workers finish
up their terms and leave the job for good. But their social security benefits
can’t go with them. So they have to withdraw from the system, taking back their
own contributions, but the part from the company stays with the system. So there
is no upside for workers to join the pension system, and for companies it
creates a financial burden. Officials from inland provinces complain that
coastal provinces have seen a fast increase of social security funds because
they not only siphoned laborers from inland but social security funds as well.
In fact, by withdrawing
from the social security system, migrant workers send a message that the system
is flawed and they are not happy with it. The government should react to that
positively and try to create a mechanism that can meet the needs of migrant
workers and is capable of merging with other social security systems in the
future.
I think several principles
should be upheld. First, migrant workers must be included in the basic pension
system. The labor law stipulates that, and the employment promotion act
prohibits any discrimination. Second, basic insurance for migrant workers will
be gradually shifted to a nationwide, portable mechanism. Third, when workers
move, they should take their own contributions to the social security funds. But
when retire, they should be able to receive both their own contributions and
those from their employers, so that they can clearly anticipate what they will
have.
CJ: Do you think the labor
law was enacted in a rush? Should we continue using
it?
Cai: I think we should
stick to the law. There are problems with enforcing this law, which were not
created by the law itself but by a lack of support measures. Companies feel
overburdened, partly because of the inadequate social security system. This is
not the fault of the labor law.
I think it is right for the
labor law to raise the cost of labor. If a company can’t bear a modest rise, it
is not competitive except as a sweatshop. We should let such companies die if
they have to. So I hope we don’t see the enforcement of the labor law scaled
back when we talk about amending the law and adding support measures. Of course,
we have to acknowledge that this year is unusual, with a number of adverse
factors (such as natural disasters and slowing external demand). The pressure
from rising labor costs is salient.
In fact, at the center of
labor economics discussions is the question of whether such legislation is
necessary. Now the popular view is that workers benefit from the minimum wage
system in developed countries, and companies are not heavily affected. But in
developing countries, sometimes when laws are made to protect workers, the
result is higher unemployment. The unlimited supply of labor in developing
countries is to blame.
In
The reason I think the new
labor law should be implemented is the change in the labor supply from a surplus
to a relative balance. There must be some kind of incentive to spur labor supply
and attract workers. Higher pay is a useful
measure.
CJ: Many companies,
especially textile manufacturers, are complaining about how hard it is to find
employees, let alone skilled ones. Is that the labor shortage you
mentioned?
CIA: What I mean is the
shortage of ordinary workers, or unskilled workers. The need for skilled workers
is a widespread problem everywhere – in
No
More Demographic Dividend?
CJ: Does
Cai: When the Lewis Turning
Point comes. The shift from labor surplus to labor shortage is known as the
Lewis Turning Point. Before we reach that point, there is an endless supply of
labor and a so-called “demographic dividend.” The current birth rate in
It’s wrong to say that
CJ: When will the Lewis
Turning Point hit
Cai: The Lewis Turning
Point is not a moment, but a period or time span. A typical dual-sector economic
model (labor transition between a traditional agricultural sector and a modern
industrial sector) features an endless labor supply, and companies don’t have to
use incentives to lure employees. But when you have to increase wages to retain
workers, that means the Lewis Turning Point has arrived. There are actually two
Lewis Turning Points. The first involves raising salaries to hire staff; the
second is the integration of urban and rural
The idea of a demographic
dividend is somewhat murky. When we calculate a demographic dividend, we use the
dependency ratio as the key variable. The dependency ratio divides populations
into three age groups: under 15 years, 16 to 64, and above 65. The young and
elderly groups together, divided by the middle group, yield the dependency
ratio. The higher the ratio, the heavier the burden. According to our estimate,
the dependency ratio has been decreasing since the mid-60s, but the downturn
will come to a stop in 2013 and start to rise. That’s what we call aging.
Our conclusion is, when the
dependency ratio drops by 1 percentage point, its contribution to GDP is 0.115
percentage point. That means the dependency ratio contributed 27 percent of
Even without the economic
cycle, some companies will have to close because the Lewis Turning Point is
taking effect. That would be a gradual, slow process, but inevitable. Companies
used to operate without raising salaries for as long as a decade, but now they
have to raise salaries by double-digit percentage points. That will be too much
to some companies, and they will be swept away by the trend.
Productivity and Total
Factor Productivity
CJ: Can we say that rising
salaries in today’s
Cai: Rising incomes will
certainly increase the labor supply and ease the shortage. Generally speaking,
I have one concern about
labor productivity. When we conducted the survey, companies provided only the
numbers of permanent staff. If all the sales and revenue data is accurate, the
number of workers might be artificially low because many of the newly created
jobs are informal ones with no contract, and therefore they are not included in
our survey. So productivity might be inflated. In that case, we should lower the
average salary level as well as productivity.
But the ratio of household
income divided by national income continues to rise, showing the effect of
increasing wages.
Again, there are
methodology problems that cause an under-estimated labor income ratio. In other
words, the employment rate from the urban labor survey (conducted by Cai) is
higher than the labor statistics survey (released by the National Bureau of
Statistics) by 53 percent. The income of informal employment might also be
missing from GDP. In addition, not all wages of migrant workers are calculated.
There is also informal employment. If you add all these together, we should have
a lower average wage level, but a higher total amount.
CJ: Does that mean now is
the time to raise total factor productivity to spur economic
development?
Cai: Economists think that
return to capital (ROC) has to diminish as a economic law, and that we should
shift the growth from a reliance on inputs of capital and labor to increasing
total factor productivity. That’s the only way to maintain increasing ROC. In
the
The problem with his
conclusion is that he didn’t realize the contribution of a demographic dividend
to economic growth. The reason for a diminishing ROC is a labor shortage, and
that’s a basic assumption of neo-classical economics. If there is no labor
shortage, there won’t be diminishing ROC. Capital and labor income can rise hand
in hand.
Not every country has a
demographic dividend, especially some developed countries. The
The effect of a demographic
dividend is more obvious in developing countries. Demographic transition happen
much more rapidly in developing countries due to medical services and family
planning.
When systematic reforms
were carried out in
In terms of total factor
productivity in
CJ: Does that mean we don’t
need technological upgrading to drive GDP growth before the arrival of the Lewis
Turning Point?
Cai: Yes. That’s why
although we’ve been talking about changing the development model for so long, no
fundamental changes have taken place, and a cheap, low-cost development model
prevails. When the Lewis Turning Point comes, the demographic dividend
disappears, and what that says for our economy is, now is the time to change.
Because when the labor surplus ends, the ROC will go down. If we don’t turn to
total factor productivity, we can’t sustain our development, and that exactly
meets Krugman’s expectation.
CJ: What are the major
obstacles and difficulties in carrying out the
change?
Cai: Changing the
development model means shifting from a reliance on capital and labor to the
growth of total factor productivity. Some research shows that in the late years
of the era of the “Four Asian Dragons,” total factor productivity rose sharply.
But the
Since the 1980s,
In terms of obstacles, the
major one is a distorted price mechanism, particularly for factors of
production. The more prices are distorted, the slower the transition. Indeed, we
don’t know how to raise total factor productivity. It’s a task left to
entrepreneurs. What the government has to do is to make the price of inputs
right.
Agricultural Subsidies
CJ:You are also a leading agricultural expert. Did you talk
about agricultural policy during the meeting?
Cai: I made some
suggestions about direct grain subsidies. Statistics shows that subsidies to
farmers are at a record high this year, at 103 billion yuan. That means the
direct subsidies to grain farmers have doubled every year in the past few years.
The subsidies have increased farmers’ income, and we should
continue.
But some research shows
that direct subsidies increase income, not productivity. The subsidies are
allocated to land, regardless of production and sales. These subsidies are
allowed because they fall in the “green box” category of the World Trade
Organization (WTO). They are not against the WTO since they have little effect
on sales, production, or price. Therefore, they have limited ability to boost
grain production.
How do the subsidies work?
If a piece of land has yielded taxes previously, it would be eligible for
subsidies today. But many farmers are laboring elsewhere and lease their land
for others to cultivate. The owners of the land receive subsidies, but the ones
who are cultivating the land don’t. In some labor-exporting regions farming is
reduced from two seasons a year to one and much land is left idle. That’s the
real hazard to food security.
Food prices have been
rising fast globally, but not in
We should let food prices rise and subsidize consumers. If the low-income urban population totals 100 million, we should subsidize their food costs, which might rise 200-300 yuan per year, or 20 to 30 billion yuan for the whole country. That’s much cheaper than the current direct subsidies to producers.